My prayer, hope & wish is for Atlantis to have a speedy recovery...it ain't over til it's over!
Thank you Atlantis for all you've blessed us with!
https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.
My prayer, hope & wish is for Atlantis to have a speedy recovery...it ain't over til it's over!
Thank you Atlantis for all you've blessed us with!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
My guess is this has cost them the thick end of 1 million dollars.
Hot damn...that's a hell of a lot more than I thought! Thank you Karter for your input...please keep us updated!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
I wonder what it's costing WT to appeal this case...is a WT flunky lawyer involved or did WT source out the appeal proceedings to a pricy appeal specialist attorney? Either way it's going to cost WT & JWs in more ways than one. According to Justice Cooke the proceedings are for sure going to result in unwanted notoriety to the cult organization:
"Publicising the section of the report dealing with the issue of abuse by members of the Jehovah's Witnesses faith will likely have a reputational impact on the appellant, and the faith more generally."
Thank you Barbara and Joe for the link.
mass formation control.
most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.
examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.
There's was a discussion about a year ago about the outside law firm (name ??) WT hired to defend JW Elders brought up on CSA charges throughout the State of Pennsylvania. To my recollection the law form & WT negotiated an hourly rate just shy of $500.00 an hour plus perdiem costs. If I'm not mistaken that law firm is still on WT's payroll. I wouldn't necessarily call that rate minimum wage!
And this Pennsylvania Attorney outsourcing by WT is one of a ton of times WT utilizes outside pricey law firms to minimize it's guilty dollar amount settlements!
Oh & BTW the above estimated $500/hr rate was at volume discount because of the large number of JW Pennsylvania elders who are being investigated and/or brought up on CSA charges!
mass formation control.
most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.
examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.
The in-house crew more-or-less works for free.
Many times free labor comes with a very huge liability. Take WT's lead attorney Philip Brumley. This dude was penalized a hefty $154,400.00 for deceiving a Montana CSA court case. WT appealed...guess what? The higher court told WT to pay the damn fine!
Even free labor comes at a high cost!
I'm told Philip Brumley is being sent back to law school. Apparently Phil skipped out on the law school section entitled: 'Penalties For Lying & Deceiving In Court Proceedings!'
mass formation control.
most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.
examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.
ThomasMore: They have a huge legal department and it still isn't enough to field all the challenges.
Question: What must it cost WT to maintain a huge in-house legal department? Add to this burden...what must it cost WT to maintain outside expert legal lawyers/consultants & expert appellate attorneys? Damn!
i'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
I've been around the block with this cult for decades & decades. I remember the 1975 fiasco/disaster well.
I remember the May 22nd 1969 Awake (What Future For Young Ones) foretelling that young ones don't need higher education b/c they wouldn't grow old in this system of things.
I remember service meeting parts in 1981 where elder bodies were instructing entire congregations to literally trash Raymond Franz's blue book (Aid To Bible Understanding) after he'd been removed as GB member & disfellowshipped.
I remember in the 60s, 70s, 80s & continuing to 2019 when JWs viewed themselves as the Locusts of Joel chapter 2. Then at 2019 Annual Meeting GB conehead David Splane corrected the understanding saying that the Locusts of Joel chapter 2 were not JWs after all...rather the Locusts are actually enemies of God.
I remember in the 80s cover-ups by WT Headquarters & body of elders of pedophiles in the congregations.
Over the years I've known of way too many suicides, murder suicides as well as plane Ole JW murders. Just recently a JW murders his JW parents including family pet in a community on West Coast called San Juan Capistrano, California.
Over the years I know of way too much wrongdoing, contradictions & discrepancies by this cult...seriously!
Today I'm approaching my 80s & have been celebrating freedom for the last 20 years...Yay!
we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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"it is better to be wrong & inside the Truth than to be “right outside the truth “
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
With all the JW changes & adjustments that appear in this new August 2024 Watchtower Study Edition there is one expression missing that normally goes hand in hand when WT comes up with revisions and changes to doctrines and teachings...the missing expression is 'New Light'. Strangely, what is also missing in this August 2024 magazine is any reference to Proverbs 4:18.
Begs the question: Is the WTBTS finally getting it right & distancing itself from the thousands of times it's misused and it's misapplication of this scripture???
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
I can confirm and assure you that it is legit.
Thank you Caminante for the reassurance that it's all legit. Can't wait to see how it all plays out...no way in hell these changes are going to do WT any damn good...Yay!